Men Acquiring Women

> For centuries men sought to streamline the pickup and rig it so that
> powerful men were guaranteed a woman.

I was listening to a show about how non-human primates manage tribal relations, and it sounded just like the kings and queens of the middle ages.

> I think the women's rights
> movement has caused as much of a shift in evolution as anything. Giving
> women a choice puts a real kink in the male system. I think even women
> are kinda fucked by this change. Now women have to be active and cold
> and calculating about snagging a well-off man (if they have not chosen
> to go the professional female route). They cannot rely on the fixed
> marriage thing anymore.

I think the sadness that women often feel is because the standard mate selection, reproduction, and child bearing thing is what we evolved for, but not what we do (or need to do) anymore. Basically, what should happen: fairly young women falls in love, a baby pops out, and the deal is sealed. The child then creates the necessary love and connection. In the modern world where people do not reproduce - the relationship itself has to be amazing just to be sustainable.

(It makes sense that the Indian culture with its fixed marriages can produce some good engineers that end up imported to America. Removing the need to seduce a woman leaves much more time to work on other stuff - and engineering is like the opposite skill.)

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> Maybe this will make it into a bit of dialogue in //.
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> but 2? nobody will do that for you (you as in me). it is a skill.
> and it's not like riding a bike - that didn't take long to learn -
> it's more like learning to play jazz. the art of pickup. it's an
> improvisational art, and like any other, it's pretty involved. i
> think i finally respect it. and it's ultimately not just the girl
> thing - it the people thing.
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> the fact is, this pickup game is what women care about greatly. it's
> really the whole social interaction thing. it's chimpanzee's. you
> can do really cool stuff... and well she might care... like if one
> achieves world fame *maybe*. even in that case, often it's the fame
> that she likes - it's not even the thing. it's the social
> verification. a little bit of social verification goes a long way.
> the actual skills and acomplishments... well many women don't really
> care. specifically i mean classic engineers are notoriously without
> girlfriends until somebody finally pegs them as a meal ticket. not
> so for salesmen, even the mediocre one will have a girl friend.
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